Luke tells me D&D Basic Set (magenta box) edited by Tom Moldvay is the best. It’s apparently quite lethal – combat has distinct rules, like most D&D, but it’s not .. D&D Rules Cyclopedia is Mentzer Basic, not Moldvay Basic. Which set was “better” – the Basic D&D Moldvay set (the one that you could put in your binder, which came in one single book) or the later set.

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Basic, Expert, Companion Dungeons and Dragons has a long and proud history.

Combat, as presented in the earlier box sets, was quick and deadly. Pages to import images to Wikidata All articles with unsourced statements Articles with unsourced statements from November It was packaged in a tan-sided box. Different Worlds 12Different Worlds 34Dragon 84 x&d All of the combat rules — basic combat, advanced combat options, weapon training and specialization — put into a single, comprehensive whole.

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Mostly, I like that I started with it. The Genie’s Curse Menfzer You chased a thief into a swamp, trekked through trackless forests and bogs, and fought your way out of an ambush set by orx.

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On a related note And the Mentzer rules are nothing if not mass market. I’ll endorse this answer. Are you a fighter? Right, but would it be practical to just reverse the ACs on mentzed Castles and Crusades write-ups, or should I be looking mentaer a new copy? Cowie ended his review by stating that “Basic is a lot closer to the spirit of the original game than is the rambling, unwieldy and sometimes pompous Advanced” and that “for one-off dungeon type games I would recommend Basic to anyone, beginner and veteran alike.


A fighter need only decide whom his target would be.

Why should you care? CompanionMasterand Immortal characters too sexy for their levels, but you essentially get 36 more.

Which D&D Basic Set is the best? Tom Moldvay vs. Frank Mentzer…

Shattered Lands Dark Sun: Magic-user uses Charm Person, but his victim is restrained by other whores who also whip the Magic-user until he leaves. When the PCs go to the city watch to report an evil doppelganger that was created in this dungeon, they are fined for leaving doors to the undercity unsecured. The Companion Set expanded upon the concepts and implications of mentzre level characters.

Although Mentzer was initially uninterested since he had no editorial or design experience, fellow player David Axler, who would go on to write an article for the December issue of Dragon magazine about how to determine the weather in the World of Greyhawk campaign setting, [4] —urged him to apply. It’s easier to reference in game play. It was, and will ever remain, the best Dungeons and Dragons has ever had to offer.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: But M-Us at 14th level in S&d get 1 more 1st-level spell and 1 less 6th-level spell than in Moldvay, so they are actually worse in that case. The monsters have damage ratings rather than things like “by weapon,” which is what Mentzer gives you I know I know I have these memorized but no thank you, just tell me the damage please. This set was limited to 1, copies and was sold by mail and at GenCon Was this a major difference between Holmes and Mentzer?

This page was last edited on 16 Novemberat The Moldvay version has weaker layout and art than the later Mentzer version.

Dark Alliance Baldur’s Gate: Mentzer got verbal permission to publish it with New Infinities, but since the permission was not in writing TSR filed an injunction to prevent the adventure’s sale, although the injunction was later lifted. Careful is probably the word for him.


Which D&D Basic Set is the best? Tom Moldvay vs. Frank Mentzer – Story Games

The Expert Set expanded upon these rules. I will come back to check on mentezr. Luke Wheel you’re playing your super awesome happy fun time home brew basement game! It wouldn’t even have to be dungeons and dragons, it would just have to follow the same campaign progression, culminating in the politics of the immortals.

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The Dungeons and Dragons Expert Set takes over from there. This operation eventually expanded to include three bakeries. So for me, the best mass-combat rules I’ve seen are either Battlesystem 2E very, very close or even the original Chainmail, which I find drawing me back in these days.

Thanks for your answer; please take the tour and visit the help center to see how this SE site works best. I must disagree with James. These rules handled levels Zeus became a menntzer point monster.

Lastly, there’s highly restricted rules for towns in Moldvay. Inhe was hired by NPS to play a public concert in the White House gardens for inner-city children. PCs enter a dungeon beneath the inn, but leave the door wide open. Castle-building rules are more detailed in Moldvay, but Mentzer details a base town and talks about running town adventures. The Mentzer rules just include flat chances for everything arranged in alphabetical order, which is a bit more random than I liked.

To my twelve-year-old brain, they were identical. The Genie’s Curse Menntzer